
42: Deradicalizing From Digital Hate (w/Caolan Robertson)
After years of being the PR man for people like Tommy Robinson and Laura Southern, Caolan Robertson has shaken off his previous gigs and started to collaborate with other ex-alt-right members on a deradicalization project called Future Freedom.

41: Snark Tank
Are we isolating and deplatforming propagandists? Are we adding good vibes to the scene and leaving the door open for earnest people to be forgiven? Or does the frustration of the content trend us towards cynicism and snark? A recent Instagram thread by dedicated listeners really brought the point home for discussion.

40: White Supremacy: Grift and Gravity (w/Michelle Cassandra Johnson & Daniel Lombroso)
Daniel Lombroso, creator of the award-winning documentary, White Noise, talks with Julian about the white supremacy movement, and about making this film while Jewish. Matthew sits down with Michelle Cassandra Johnson to discuss how the yoga and wellness worlds in particular are (and are not) responding to the intensification of both calls to justice, as well as the blowback.

39: How to Talk about Conspiracy Theories (w/Anna Merlan)
Republic of Lies author Anna Merlan sits down with Derek to discuss the process of embedding with conspiracy consumers and peddlers, and the challenges faced when reporting on them.

38: Natural Hopes, Natural Fallacies (w/Drs Juniper Martin & Adriana Berusch)
We contemplate the meaning, practice, delusions, and hypocrisies of the “natural.” Matthew interviews Naturopathic Doctor Juniper Martin and fourth-year student Adriana Berusch Gerardino about their efforts with the Naturopathic Alliance to dispel COVID misinformation and to challenge racism in their profession.

37: Guru Jagat Cultjacks Kundalini Yoga (w/Philip Deslippe & Stacie Stukin)
Matthew’s interview with Kundalini Yoga scholar Philip Deslippe and journalist Stacie Stukin continues, as they discuss the tragic past, chaotic present, and future relevance of the cult of Yogi Bhajan.

36: Guru Jagat’s Pandemic Brandwash (w/Philip Deslippe & Stacie Stukin)
Our guests,Philip Deslippe and journalist Stacie Stukin, paint a lucid, non-sensationalized picture of how a high-demand religious group — in this case, Yogi Bhajan’s Kundalini Yoga — navigates new opportunities for manipulation.

35: Séance Science (w/Susannah Crockford)
Today we discuss three Q-adjacent channellers: JZ Knight, Lorie Ladd, Elizabeth April, and also Paul Selig. Matthew plays angel’s advocate and interviews Professor Susannah Crockford about her anthropological fieldwork amongst the New Agers and channelers of Sedona. TL;DR: “There’s never a single answer for anything.”

34: Insurrectionist Influencers (w/RP Eddy)
Derek interviews RP Eddy, CEO of strategy and geopolitical intelligence firm, Ergo. Eddy previously served as Director at the White House National Security Council under Bill Clinton, Chief of Staff to US Ambassador Richard Holbrooke, and Senior Policy Officer to UN Secretary Kofi Annan. He shares his thoughts about the current state of national security.

33: Manipulating the Hero’s Journey
We look at how certain influencers confuse heroism for megalomania and forget that heroes and their societies are interdependent. Derek and Julian measure some of the usual suspects against Joseph Campbell’s ruler while Matthew asks questions about what makes a theory vulnerable to distortion.

32: Both Sides Pt 2: Healing & Sense-making in the New Year (w/Charles Eisenstein)
This episode is centered on Part 2 of Matthew’s discussion with Charles Eisenstein — a bellwether for the possibility that wellness and spirituality culture can communicate clearly about conspirituality.

31: Bro Science: Anti-Vaxxers (w/Jonathan Berman)
Julian and Derek sift through the piles of vaccine and health propaganda spread by Robert F Kennedy, Jr and Zach Bush on a recent Instagram Live. Derek interviews Jonathan Berman, author of Anti-Vaxxers: How to Challenge a Misinformed Movement, about trying to build a bridge.

30: Are There Really Two Sides? (w/Charles Eisenstein)
Matthew interviews Charles Eisenstein, whose essay “The Coronation” has cast a long shadow on our ongoing critique of how New Age and spiritual spaces interact with public health.

29: Bro Science (w/Dr Dan Wilson)
We listen to some top “Bro scientists” to see how bro-ness reduces, minimizes, and mocks science. We listen to pearls of bro-dom from JP Sears, Kyle Kingsbury, Aubrey Marcus, Sayer Ji, Toronto’s very own BBQAnon, Adam Skelly, and Zach Bush, doctor to the bros. Dr Dan “Debunk the Funk” Wilson joins to weigh in.

28: Resurrection of Jordan Peterson (w/Jeff Brown)
We dive into Jordan Peterson’s imaginarium. We won’t totally discount his button-down commonsensical advice, but we will explore how it has lent intellectual support to the alt-right. Julian interviews dissociation debunker Jeff Brown, who champions “enrealment,” and has a heartfelt critique of what he calls the “new cage” movement.

27: Finding Meaning (and Laughs) in Crisis (w/Alex Auder)
Matthew interviews friend of the pod, the fabulous Alex Auder, about what it means to satirize free-birth influencer @bauhauswife, who’s putting the fash back into fashion.

26: Return of the Repressed, Or The Drugs Paula White is Not On (w/Brian Muraresku)
In a rich interview with author of The Immortality Key, Brian Muraresku, Derek explores the ancient psychedelia of Christianity, both forgotten and repressed, and hopes for its return, as it would probably make Paula White and Kenneth Copeland chill TF out.

25: Waking Up from Cancel Culture (w/Clementine Morrigan & Jay from F*cking Cancelled)
Matthew asks Clementine Morrigan and Jay from F*cking Cancelled about the work that the digital Left can do to foster solidarity, loyalty, and freedom.

24: Body Politic Recovery (w/Tada Hozumi)
Matthew crystal-balls the precarious future of post-COVID yoga, and interviews cultural somaticist Tada Hozumi on why Andrew Yang offered attachment politics, decolonizing wellness, and WTF is going on at The Embodiment Conference.

23: Election Resilience (w/Hala Khouri, Lissa Rankin, & Tara Stiles)
This week, we take some time to explore thoughts and feelings about this menacing week, and how we’re contemplating and committing to the long haul through our work, relationships, and self-care. We’re joined by special guests Hala Khouri, Tara Stiles, and Lissa Rankin, who all offer their wisdom.