
82: Steve Bannon, Mystic (w/Benjamin Teitelbaum)
Benjamin Teitelbaum, an Assistant Professor of Ethnomusicology and International Affairs at the University of Colorado, Boulder, and author of the book, War for Eternity: The Return of Traditionalism and the Rise of the Populist Right, joins to talk about gaining access to leading right-wing figures around the world, including Steve Bannon.

81: Praying for Fire (w/Sean Prophet)
New Age doomsday cult leader, Elizabeth Clare Prophet, is responsible for a prayer used by the Q-faithful. We’ll ask today’s guest host, Sean Prophet—who happens to be the eldest son of that cult leader—how he got out, and how we got here.

80: Lights, Camera, Yoga (w/Jill Miller)
Our guest host today is Jill Miller, who many listeners will know from her hugely influential body of work in yoga and movement as founder of Tune-Up Fitness. She's also a former actor, which played an important role in her transition to full-time yoga instructor. We're going to start today with an excerpt from her 2017 TED-style talk that she gave in Toronto titled, “Lights, Camera, Yoga.”

79: Anti-Hate Work in Canada (w/Dan Collen, Elizabeth Simons, & Morgan Yew)
COVID has been a recruiting windfall for hate groups in Canada, with new alliances and networks forged between white supremacists, xenophobes, and ethnonationalists in the fire of accelerated conspiracism. Joining Matthew to map out this landscape are street-level anti-hate activists Elizabeth Simons, Neuberger Holocaust Education Center researcher Dan Collen, and video journalist Morgan Yew.

78: Society of the Conspiracy
Conspiracy theories flourish during uncertain times. They're always with us, passed down through generations like alternate histories, yet they’re constantly reinvented when collective stress levels peak.

77: A Homeopathy Episode So Potent You Can’t Hear It (w/Jonathan Jarry)
Derek takes us on a tour through the strange history of homeopathy, the medicine that isn’t there, and interviews Jonathan Jarry of the McGill Office for Science and Society on why it haunts us.

76: A Field Guide to White Supremacy (w/Kathleen Belew)
Matthew reviews a new volume of essays that might help. A Field Guide to White Supremacy, edited by Drs. Kathleen Belew and Ramon Gutierrez, brings together a pile of resources for journalists and policy-makers who want to engage thoughtfully with issues of equality. And he interviews Dr. Belew on best practices, The Great Replacement conspiracy theory, and why there are no “lone wolves.”

75: How to Talk to a Science Denier (w/Lee McIntyre)
What happens when a philosopher of science shows up at a flat earth conference to test out his theories about changing people's minds? This story catapults you into Lee Mcintyre’s new book, How to Talk to a Science Denier. He joins the pod this week.

74: Elena Brower Could Stop Selling doTERRA
Matthew digs into the background of a recent article posted to Medium called “Open Letter to Elena Brower.” He interviews the author, Tatum Fjerstad, who Brower mentored from 2014 to 2016, and Liz Fullen, who worked as Brower’s unpaid yoga class assistant for approximately three years.

73: Eating Disorders in Yogaland (w/Jason Nagata & Chelsea Roff)
Julian talks with Chelsea Roff, founder of Eat Breathe Thrive, about her own struggles with food before discussing her decade of experience working with eating disorder victims in Yogaland. Derek then chats with Dr. Jason Nagata about the challenges of treating boys and men in clinical settings, and what to do about a phenomenon so many suffer from yet so few are able to find a language for.

72: John of Fraud (w/Lisa Braun Dubbels & Mirna Wabi-Sabi)
We look at how lazy and motivated journalism shook hands with the entrepreneurial New Age to validate and accelerate the absurd claims of a monster—John of God. In addition to original reporting on how João made his mark in the U.S., Matthew is joined by former New Age publicist Lisa Braun Dubbels and Brazilian journalist Mirna Wabi Sabi to discuss the globalization of magic and abuse.

71: So Do We Believe in Anything at All?
This week we’ll either answer or transcend the core questions our listeners post in moments of parasocial vulnerability: Do you guys believe in anything at all? Are there any wholesome spiritual communities out there? Are all spiritual teachers toxic?

70: Conspiracy Theories Conceal a Burning World (w/Daniel Sherrell)
Daniel Sherrell is the author of an extraordinary memoir and prayer book, Warmth: Coming of Age at the End of Our World. Matthew sits down with Daniel to discuss the real conspiracy of climate denialism, and how conspiracy theories provide relief to those who cannot contemplate our condition.

69: Fascism Down Under!!! (w/Dr Izzy Smith)
We talk to Decoding the Gurus co-host (and real-life Australian) Matthew Browne about the situation on the ground. Julian interviews another Aussie, Dr. Izzy Smith, about her online anti-conspiracy theory activism and science advocacy.

68: The Jordan Peterson of Fitness Bros (w/Antonio Valladares)
Paul Chek trained JP Sears, traded podcasts with biohacker Ben Greenfield, hung with anus sunshiner Troy Casey, and hosted Mikki Willis twice in the last year on his own podcast. Today’s co-host, Antonio Valladares, also trained with Chek, but unlike many of Chek’s acolytes, Antonio has used his time and knowledge debunking conspiracy theories in nutrition and fitness, not adding to the fire.

67: The Promise & Peril of Psychedelics
Julian interviews Derek about these topics based on Derek’s 2020 book, Hero’s Dose: The Case for Psychedelics in Ritual & Therapy.

66: Spirituality & Status (w/Will Storr)
Derek chats with journalist Will Storr about his new book, The Status Game: On Social Position and How We Use It. They discuss how status plays a role in anti-vax groups, spiritual communities, and political groups.

65: Long-Haul QAnon (w/Rachel Bernstein & Jitarth Jadeja)
Joining us today as a co-host is Jitarth Jadeya, one of the few ex-QAnon followers so far who has been willing and able to discuss what this fever dream did to him and his family. Marriage and Family therapist Rachel Bernstein, the host of the brilliant IndoctriNation Podcast, also joins to discuss her experiences working with cult survivors and providing recovery resources.

64: Remembering Guru Jagat: a Panel
We’ve convened an expert panel this week to remember and discuss Katie Griggs, aka GJ. She died in an LA hospital on the evening of August 1st. LA Magazine was the first outlet to confirm the death with the RA MA Institute, which Griggs co-founded in Venice, CA.

63: Yoga and the Jab (w/Colin Hall & Sarah Garden)
Matthew interviews Sarah Garden and Colin Hall of Bodhi Tree Yoga in Saskatchewan, who made national news when they announced that yes, they would. Bodhi Tree clients will have to show their card; if they can’t or don’t want to be vaccinated, online classes are still available. Simple, right? Not in Yogaland.